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  • 思畸

    思畸

    今日香港,朱紅世代,荒謬太多,用腦太少。思畸只有一支筆,笑盡江湖,再沉靜思考。希望香港重踏正路,看透歪事由我來。

    思歪思正

    本欄每周三更新

  一場天台倒塌意外,令大家驚覺原來香港嘅建築水平,可能同落後地區嘅水平「有得揮」,低到有得揮嗰種。

 

  城大運動中心天台倒塌,一開始睇到啲片同相,我以為中間綠色嗰一堆係運動場本身嘅地下,後來先知道原來係成個屋頂倒塌,綠色位置係草皮,皆因個冧落嚟嘅係綠化天台。我同身邊嘅人腦入面第一個諗法都係,啱呀,咁樣冧落嚟理所當然啦,試吓將城大個泳池搬上去呢個禮堂上面,冧得仲快。

 

  呢種常識人皆有之,但係點解件意外最後都係發生咗?點解冇一個先賢可以提醒大家,阻止呢件事發生?各大小傳媒呢幾日都搵咗好多資深建築師及工程師做評估,十個有十個都話如果俾著係佢做呢個工程嘅認可人士,佢都冇可能批准呢個工程喺冇入則嘅情況下展開。點解常識冇喺當初起呢個空中樓閣嘅時候就應用到出嚟?

 

  細細個就聽過《畫蛇添足》呢個成語寓言故事,但係當走到入社會,似乎大家都忘記咗呢啲睇落唔重要嘅處世哲學,嗰次個主人翁都只係因為添咗足而輸咗壼酒,今次就俾大家睇到「添足」後果係可以幾咁震憾。為咗美觀、為咗迎合長官意志,逐步逐步都有唔少事例,顯示當有人想為一件製成品造改動,或者加建一啲嘢嘅時候,忘記咗本身設計棟建築出嚟嘅實用性,理得加建嘅嘢係咪會多咗一舊魚,定係超L重(參:無線新聞,2016),總之搵到所謂「專家」肯認頭,主子心意獲得配合就OK。

 

  資深建築師何文堯上電台節目時,強調城大綠化工程冇入則,好肯定係非法僭建,佢曾經擔任建築物條例上訴審裁處委員,審過近百宗懷疑僭建個案,可以話係真正嘅權威,佢亦為呢件事落咗一個好好嘅評價,佢指出而家社會出現一種風氣,就係先決定工程去馬,再搵「專家」補足返評估同認可程序,將建築物條例訂明嘅程序倒轉嚟做,總之點都會搵到一個專家肯去點頭確認工程可以開展。佢認為社會要反思呢種歪風。

 

  呢種「先有結果,不問過程」,同政府多年嚟氹立法會議員嘅「先通過,後審議」如出一轍,總之就係話你聽,「嗱,我就一定去馬架啦,總之你幫我揼個印,批俾我,啲細節再討論」。究竟呢種歪風係邊個帶起先,無從考究,但係當政府部門都用呢種態度對待政策,執法機關又點樣說服大眾去跟從正式程序?當有事發生,小業主或者係今次事件嘅城大管理層必然要負上責任,但係呢種風氣嘅傳承,政府都要負上相當責任。

 

  僭建,就係可以將天台綠化呢啲好嘢,演化成威脅生命的危機。

 

  高鐵一地兩檢亦係另一個活生生嘅例子。你睇吓到今日,政府都重搵緊嗰一個「認可人士」,去同公眾確認,一地兩檢係可以僭建喺基本法同香港法律之上,即管睇下佢僭建成點,僭建到將我哋一直引以為傲嘅程序公義,壓毀到蕩然無存。

 

  不過,點都估唔到,有另一個扮教育嘅「磚家」,喺呢個時候撲出嚟,話俾大家聽一個「磚家」可以幾唔專業。

 

  啱啱上個禮拜發生呢件事,我本來諗住寫稿可以好舒服好簡單,對正問題去評論啦,點知突然間吳克儉噚日就講咗呢一番說話:「啱啱上個禮拜,我本來諗住放假好舒服架,點知突然間有呢個綠化天台倒塌嘅問題。」聽完呢句已經硬晒個拳頭,佢仲要再補多一句double hit:「諗住呢一件係單一事件,點知發覺呢唔似係單一事件。」佢如夢初醒啦,原來全香港好多學校都有做呢啲天台綠化!點算呀佢咪放唔到假囉!?!?

 

  「吳磚」,你真係好正,校園綠化係康文署喺2000年推行嘅計劃,期間一直同教育局(及前身教統局)合作嘅項目。你唔識自己個局以下有咩政策,不如返日本算啦,繼續舒舒咁放假,冇人阻你。一位本業係做人力資源嘅「教育專家」,就係不斷俾山埃意見佢嘅上級。當教育本應代表社會嘅未來,大學本應代表社會嘅進步,呢一事一物,點樣說服我哋,我城有未來同有進步?

 

 

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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-29 03:34 AM
  • #79
  • The other professor is a black guy, and has been around since 1996, his name is Sherman Klump and he is rather good at make-up, in fact he picked up best make-up prize in 69th Academy awards.
    He has a web-site too:-
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nutty_Professor_(1996_film)
    Please say hello to Professor Klump for me, if you can find him.

  • 引用 #71 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 05:44 PM

    回覆 hongkonger fail to see building a high speed train linking HK and China is something that i ...
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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-29 03:26 AM
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  • "Regarding the 3 professors, I will print out your postings here including quotes from famous persons and then show them how they think of your wrtings. Stay tune."

    As much as I look forward to the "unanimous" reply of your 3 professors from a fathom faculty, Communication Studies; I have found out ,with no effort at all, the names of 2 of the 3 professors.
    In fact one is so famous that his face is now showing in posters and billboards in MTR, buses, internet sites etc. The whole world know his name and his trademark--a bald man in a wheelchair.
    Welcome to the world of X men and let us all meet PROFESSOR Charles Xavier.
    So don't bother reply to me about his opinion, I , like millions of others, can receive his message by telepathy.
    In fact I have just received a message from him by telepathy: he tells me that you are a liar, and a very incompetent liar too!
    If I have any more messages from him, in your own words AGAIN: Stay Tune!

  • 引用 #71 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 05:44 PM

    回覆 hongkonger fail to see building a high speed train linking HK and China is something that i ...
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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-29 02:55 AM
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  • Cost Benefit Analysis/NPV are the relics of the past, with interest rate at zero, and even talk of NIR(Negative Interest Rate) coming on the horizon, all these so-called "objective analysis" are dinosaurs in this New Normal age--NIR put the whole formula of Cost Benefit Analysis off-balance and brings havoc to the equation of NPV.
    You should in your own words AGAIN--"stay tuned" to the development of the world.
    All the economic theories we have studied in schools and at top universities have gone up in smoke!! Your effort of re-cycling these relics is at best "courageous", but at worst shows how simple and naive are those living in the Ivory Tower.
    My advice to you is: Wake Up, Dude! Set your feet on the GROUND, Boy!

    My Harvard Business School training is worthless when it comes to understanding the economy today
    http://www.scmp.com/business/article/1941027/my-harvard-business-school-training-worthless-when-it-comes-understanding
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 10:55 PM
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  • at best unsubstantiated and at worst untrue.
    我相信在這寫過過萬字!
    要找口實豈不容易?但我就未見你拿出任何實際例子!

    how westerners ill treated China in the past. I did not dispute there were criminal behavior fr western world.
    但是公文袋和你自己不正是在延續他們的行為,達到他們原來的目的?
    其他人不是繼續擁抱人家大腿,乞求資助金錢和支持?

    我在這裏是在指出一個基本物理現象,在光明一面背後都有黑暗的另一面!
    反者亦然!

    我引用的無論是讃揚認同中國的人事,和批評西方的劣行,偽善,惡毒的行為,百分之九十九來源都是西方!絕少是來自大陸或支持大陸的來源!
    如果你不同意,可指出那些你《不信》的資料源頭!作為你的論據!

  • 引用 #69 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 12:40 PM

    左中右 I found that you made a terrible logical error. When I speculate u r a paid poster, your re ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 10:54 PM
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  • 這是你說的公民黨梁家傑的名字!我也不知公民黨是梁的!

    Civil Party Leung also has paid posters here (may be yes, may be no)
    對丁2可能有,對部分人可能無?

    就是無否認!收到!清楚!
    無中(證據)生用(指控他人)
    和公民黨有組織,訓練,資助,動員做這些工作,these are two independent events.

    I saw you posting false, untrue, illogical and sometimes even ridiculous comments with one-sided arguments
    你的指控
    麻煩你拿出證據來!不要單講你的判辭!
    Don't lie on the web!
    It's immoral!

    是公民黨教導的
    捉人,主控,法官,執法同是你一人包辦的牛仔法律?

  • 引用 #69 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 12:40 PM

    左中右 I found that you made a terrible logical error. When I speculate u r a paid poster, your re ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 10:52 PM
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  • 你一貫的反應,
    在你被洗乾淨,被漂白的腦袋裏,沒有的事情,
    在世界亦不會存在!不是真實!
    所有證據,分析,觀念都是Trash!

    一篇報導,告訴你現象,事實的背後,因為不包括其他實際動作行動,你就會說是沒有證據,沒有compelling evidence, 因為在你腦中不包括這些,不能放進這些,更不要說你會自己在這方面自己去探索求證否證!

    我必須承認,必須讚揚他們洗腦的技術,可以製造如此純白單純的腦袋,不存在任何不合用的雜質,沙石!

  • 引用 #68 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 12:33 PM

    回覆 左中右 I read through the arguments from Ben Swann who merely claimed that US created ISIS t ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 10:51 PM
  • #73
  • 精英制是不是就不存在民主國家?
    恰好相反!
    連香港小小地方,上層階級政府官員不是充斥著皇仁,華仁,喇沙,港大,中大的畢業生?
    在西方國家,以至如阿富汗這傀儡國家的政府,主要官員,尤其財金管理,中央銀行和世界銀行,IMF 等大部份都是Goldman Sachs 的前僱員!美國政內外包括總統到議員,大部分都是屬於Skulls and Bone, Freemason, Foreign Relations Council 的會員。

    不知大家有沒有聽過一個叫Bilderberg Group 的組織?他們是一個集全球精英,國王,總統,首相,富豪,跨國企業領導和其他領域精英的組織,必須強調的是包括世界最重要的各大傳媒集團,每年在不同國家開會,討論硏究未來世界的導向,和選出未來世界各國的領導人!你沒有看錯:是選出未來世界各國的領導人!前面説漏了美國每屆政府各級主要官員領導,都是他們組織中人 !

    神奇的是這精英高層次的組織,結集世界極具影響力的領導人和精英,保安嚴緊,每次都是軍警海陸空封鎖,然而新聞和電視都識做,不與報導!但更奇怪的是他們有公開網址,網上有不少討論和資料,大家徧徧看不見,聽不到!

    而每次選舉大家都以為是自己運用自己的權力去選擇!太美麗的誤解,而他們正享受,期望大家永遠保持

  • 引用 #72 左中右 發表於 2016-5-27 10:49 PM

    正如之前的回覆,普選不是中國歷代的傳統! 在中國共產黨來說,如果排除了毛澤東這時候的人禍和文化大革 ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 10:49 PM
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  • 正如之前的回覆,普選不是中國歷代的傳統!
    在中國共產黨來說,如果排除了毛澤東這時候的人禍和文化大革命的黨爭權鬦這一半的歷史,中國有自己一套循序漸進的幹部提升,各級調職的訓練,實習,在不同岡位的培訓,全面掌握施政,國情的認識!逐級挑選提升!

    這是經一套精細緊密的培訓輪選方式的精英制,能者居之的模式!

    這與民主的選舉,孰優孰劣?兩年前英國雜誌經濟學人就刊出過一個專題,分析,What's gone wrong with Democracy?他們就詳述了過去百年的民主國家進程的挫敗和中阈的非民主之路成功的示範!

    http://www.economist.com/news/essays/21596796-democracy-was-most-successful-political-idea-20th-century-why-has-it-run-trouble-and-what-can-be-do

    這文章我在此亦有分亨過兩三次!

    中國有沒有民主選舉?有!
    在基層城鄉之間,市民農民就可以有投票權,一人一票,選舉人大代表!
    比香港先進!在香港小小的一個城市,就安置十八區,再加不同層次的選舉,重床疊架,製造不同利益山頭,製造矛盾,使小撮有心人可以把持操縱!

    所以不要把民主選舉當作金科玉律,神聖不可侵犯,當宗教般的膜拜!
    ...

  • 引用 #66 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 12:24 PM

    回覆 左中右 Let's analyze what I wrote & your responses: - You wrote 1920: women have right to vo ...
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 05:44 PM
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    fail to see building a high speed train linking HK and China is something that is considered wrong
    You need to evaluate a capital project in terms of cost/benefits through NPV analysis. These types of projects cannot really improve that much efficiency but are very cost ineffective. The objective of China is to siphon funds from HK reserve to save China's crumbling economy. Regarding the 3 professors, I will print out your postings here including quotes from famous persons and then show them how they think of your wrtings. Stay tune.
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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-27 01:31 PM
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  • condone--
    to forgive or approve (something that is considered wrong) : to allow (something that is considered wrong) to continue

    I fail to see building a high speed train linking HK and China is something that is considered wrong, thus using "condone" here is very strange.
    But I do see those Pan-democrats politicians CONDONING those Mongkok rioters is the correct usage of the word.
    BTW, I have been waiting eagerly for the single and unified answer from your 3 authorative HKU professors, but it seems that they have disappeared from your posts all together.
    I could not help but speculate the reason of their disappearance is that they do not CONDONE your behaviours.
    Perhaps you should paid more attention to the words of your professors, if they do exist.

  • 引用 #64 John2 發表於 2016-5-27 12:02 PM

    回覆 hongkonger The word should be condone Sorry for the typo
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 12:40 PM
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  • 左中右

    I found that you made a terrible logical error. When I speculate u r a paid poster, your response is Civil Party Leung also has paid posters here (may be yes, may be no) However, these are two independent events. If u r not a paid poster, it is fine. However, I saw you posting false, untrue, illogical and sometimes even ridiculous comments with one-sided arguments with a sole purpose to portray China/CY in a very favourable light. The point is what you said here is by and large at best unsubstantiated and at worst untrue. Also, you like to cite how westerners ill treated China in the past. I did not dispute there were criminal behavior fr western world. However, if you tried to use past wrongdoings of westerns to China to justify the current criminal behavior of China. Then, you're dead wrong. You simply played the tricks of CCP to divert attention of mainland Chinese from the current problems of China to westerners through the guise of nationalism.
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 12:33 PM
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  • 回覆 #53 左中右


    I read through the arguments from Ben Swann who merely claimed that US created ISIS to destabilize the region.

    However, there are no evidences or compelling arguments created???? However, you hold his ideas as truth nothing but the truth in the world and then preached here as truth. Do you think this is responsible poster's behavior?
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 12:27 PM
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  • 回覆 #61 左中右


    有10位的打咭報數,相當盡職..

    Have u ever consider some posters do think you're writing trash and hence give you dislike?
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 12:24 PM
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  • 回覆 #56 左中右


    Let's analyze what I wrote & your responses:
    - You wrote 1920: women have right to vote & 1870 blacks have right to vote in the US. My argument is upto now mainland Chinese has no right to vote. So which country is more democratic?
    - Your responses are westerners exported opium, guns and Christianity to China. (1) nobody is saying that exporting opium to another country is morally right nor condone it. (2) You tried to portray Sun Yat San etc. as hypocritical as their believed in Christianity is only for political purposes. I agreed with u on this point. (3) Communism and Capitalism are manufactured by Wall Street. You got this dead wrong. The influence of Wall Street is only so strong in 1990's and peaked before 2008 financial crisis. Communism and capitalism have more than 100 years history.

    The point is how your (1), (2), (3) related to China up to now still do not have voting right for their leaders?
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  • John2發表於 2016-5-27 12:09 PM
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  • 回覆 #63 hongkonger


    My understanding of butterfly effect is a butterfly flips its wings in Brazil could have caused a hurricane in Mississippi. Again, how is this related to the analogy presented by the columnist?
    The columnist stipulated clearly that the university did something without due diligence and then later on asked some professionals to condone it. The same logic applies to high speed train in HK. The gov't goes ahead (I believed it is under the pressure from China) without carefully think through the legal issues. Now with the completion is approaching, our gov't then needs to consult legal experts to solve this legal issue. That is the analogy with the same spirit behind.

    I am surprised why u can't see it.
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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-27 09:31 AM
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  • "I suggest you take a broader perspective to see this analogy. "
    Please study carefully the definition of Butterfly Effect, if you can; failing that, you can always seek the "unanimous" opinion of your 3 professors in your HKU "Communication Studies" faculty(I can't find this faculty anywhere in HKU, funny, isn't it?) using your 6 broader and even more boring criteria in your "Need for Speed" 9 minutes.
    As the above statements are rather laborious to type, I decide to condense hereafter in the short form:- 369.
    This number is less than 689, but in your own words in your post #38---"Can you see the rationale for the analogy?"

  • 引用 #38 John2 發表於 2016-5-26 01:43 PM

    回覆 hongkonger 一地兩檢跟潛建或倒塌扯上關係? I suggest you take a broader perspective to see th ...
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  • hongkonger發表於 2016-5-27 09:19 AM
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  • "then locate a so-called expert to "condo" it later on"
    --What is "condo"?
    Is it "condom"?
    Is it "condominiun"?
    Please clarify or seek the unanimous opinion(NOTE the singular, not plural!) of your 3 professors in HKU's "Communication Studies" faculty, if it does exist; using your fantastic 6 criteria, if you can list them all; in your faster than than "Fast and Furious" time of 9 minutes, if you can.
    In your own words in the same post: "I am very surprised you could not see it."

  • 引用 #38 John2 發表於 2016-5-26 01:43 PM

    回覆 hongkonger 一地兩檢跟潛建或倒塌扯上關係? I suggest you take a broader perspective to see th ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 03:09 AM
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  • 午夜過後#60的留言,至今個半小時左右,有10位的打咭報數,相當盡職,不過仍缺少一些理據和勇氣提出合情合理的辯論!

    《飲飲食食玩女人…》這是不光彩不道德!對吧?

    有人為此被停職,道歉,引究辭職,辭職割蒂;是否如此?這些後續行為是否代表一些羞恥之心,正義所不能容的結果?

    如果告訴你在佔旺之時,有熱血工人吃喝之後,有人利用大眾正義的捐款,左擁右抱,背妻開房直落,你能否接受?這事情發生後有無他的同路人給予譴責,處罰,割蓆,更無人道歉請辭!何解?

    用公帑有人讌客都不能接受!
    假若是用學校資助,學生會經費和學生父母的金錢,在攪男女肢體接觸,意淫,咸濕的《迎新》活動,冒犯無知,或起碼沒有個人或父母的心理準備,而被侵犯的人 - 尤其是《被玩的女》同學,安排設計和舉行這些《迎新活動》的學生會和攪手,有無人受過譴責,有無人道歉請辭停職和內疚?
    相反我們只見年復一年,變本加厲,越玩越激!引以為傲!

    曾有社會知名人士,其女在上大學,參加過迎新活動後,幾天之內便自殺失救,誰也說不清原因,誰也擺脫不了在迎新活動中,她可有遇到難於啟齒的委屈!

    社會見不到嗎?還是視而不見,放任這些行為?

  • 引用 #60 左中右 發表於 2016-5-27 12:43 AM

    這段是你寫的還是copy and paste出來的? 如果你以後在這裡都用中文,我們便可以詳細討論! 可先說一 ...
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  • 左中右發表於 2016-5-27 12:43 AM
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  • 這段是你寫的還是copy and paste出來的?

    如果你以後在這裡都用中文,我們便可以詳細討論!

    可先說一句:我說長毛拉布玉成曾對索羅斯的大禮,
    你可已經知道2017是丁2.0 的天下,到時你們都雞犬升天!
    包括長毛和田北俊等有份玉成大禮的人!

    香港人都不會有好日子過!

  • 引用 #44 John2 發表於 2016-5-26 02:11 PM

    To: 左中右 愛國愛港」份子返大陸唔去飲飲食食玩女人,難道你要他們去研究中國近代史又或者馬克思主義嗎 ...
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